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2009/08/03 07:07:51 (permalink)
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steds (not a joke)

Seriousily this was an eyeopener for me. As much as people want to deny it, but steds aint no joke.

I know this is old but from 6mins 50 seconds on is an eye opener.
http://www.youtube.com/...KieQ&feature=channel

My grandad was a steroid user and he was a GP. He died in 1998 from a heart attack and then a stroke which he never recovered from.

it's been a LONG time since I have injected steds into myself due to my body starting to react badly to the stuff. And I say a long time because since my steroid usage I took them for a couple of years , doing 10 week cycles and then only coming off for 3-4 weeks before jumping on again. It's been a year since i touched the sh1t. And personally don't think I will ever use them again.
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    daKensta
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 07:12:42 (permalink)
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 07:22:07 (permalink)
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    Seriousily this was an eyeopener for me.


    Why? Why would you believe whats in that video, Try this one, its telling us exactly the opposite,
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 07:35:42 (permalink)
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    I think the Steve Machalik stuff is rubbish - it's his opinion rather than fact.

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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 09:21:18 (permalink)
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    Steve Michalik was and still is over the top. He doesn't do sensible conversation and never has done. Google 'intensity or insanity'. 

     
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 10:07:48 (permalink)
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    If you believe that BS try watching this:



    Its a 100% accurate description of the effects of cannabis.

    Do you believe every bit of sensational propaganda you see on the internet?


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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 10:34:16 (permalink)
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    Drugs are drugs and have always been victimised by the media and governments. When we choose to use a drug then we all accept the consequences.
     
     However i still find it funny that most people still smok fags, drink large amounts of caffeine and alcohol and yet these things hardly ever get brought up. Why you ask?? because the simple fact they are legal, how pathetic is that.

    Simply put the world legal on something and automaticlally gives the green light that it cant be that bad or harmful.


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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 14:14:09 (permalink)
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    no no no fellas. It;s not the case of me believing what's in the vid. Long term use of steroids DO have negative affects on the body. And yes smoking etc does too. But that isn't the issue here. I am only pointing this out cus I know 90% of steroid users DO overlook these negative affects and health issues.
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 15:15:02 (permalink)
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    if taken sensibly though and doing research on how and when and how much to take then shouldnt be too much of a problem.

    is mainly a problem for those who dont research it and take steroids for a quick fix (ie - young men).

    I dont take steroids and dont intend to however if people take them sensibly then think it is fine.



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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 15:16:52 (permalink)
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    I have no idea whether steroid use is actually harmful, or harmful in the same way that booze is e.g. not really.

    If that makes sense. I mean you can put forward a list of reasons not to drink alcohol, but I do and I dont expect it to do me long or even short term damage.

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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 15:26:12 (permalink)
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    Red_Alert

    I have no idea whether steroid use is actually harmful, or harmful in the same way that booze is e.g. not really.

    If that makes sense. I mean you can put forward a list of reasons not to drink alcohol, but I do and I dont expect it to do me long or even short term damage.


    This is very naive imo
     
    Drink can and does absolutely ruin people, body and mind
     
    (Do I still drink, yes I do, but im aware of the risk)
     
    Of course using steroids for cosmetic reasons (rather than medical) is bad for you, does anyone seriously believe otherwise?
     
    Surely both are about risk V reward?
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 15:33:14 (permalink)
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    TheMasterPlan

    Red_Alert

    I have no idea whether steroid use is actually harmful, or harmful in the same way that booze is e.g. not really.

    If that makes sense. I mean you can put forward a list of reasons not to drink alcohol, but I do and I dont expect it to do me long or even short term damage.


    This is very naive imo
     
    Drink can and does absolutely ruin people, body and mind
     
    (Do I still drink, yes I do, but im aware of the risk)
     
    Of course using steroids for cosmetic reasons (rather than medical) is bad for you, does anyone seriously believe otherwise?
     
    Surely both are about risk V reward?


    Sorry I wasnt clear.
     
    Yes drink is harmful. But I would drink and not worry about repercussions.
     
    If I took steroids I would be seriously worried about the damage.
     
    That was my point. Which is worse?

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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 15:51:54 (permalink)
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    Ah gotcha

    I think it would depend on the person, and which one they were taking (alcohol or steroids) and in what sort of quantity
    I dont know what your drinking is like, you're at uni arent you? I know that if I drank and continued to drink like I did at times at uni, for years following uni, I would probably be in a bad way!
    Dont underestimate it, is all im saying. But to answer your question, which is worst, Im not qualified to answer! cheers
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 16:00:23 (permalink)
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    Yes steroid use is by no means good for you but if you follow safe practise you can minimize the negative side effects, Shooting 500mg pw every now and then for 10 weeks is obviously safer than blasting and cruising with up to 6gram pw for 15 years etc.
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 16:26:27 (permalink)
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    I think my main 'gripe' with steroids and people on this board in particular are two fold:

    1) People use too much, too early, and without having achieved a decent base level of muscle/strength before hand. If you can't bench 100kg, deadlift 200kg or even squat at all what makes you think you are ready for steroids?

    What we then find is people on this board running 1.5gs+ (combined dose) of gear when they don't have a great physique or decent level of strength.

    What they are doing is taking a risk when they could achieve similar results if they were patient and applied themselves.

    I also think the indescriminate nature of internet sources is something to do with this.

    2) It warps peoples' perception of what is achievable naturally. In that the line between natural and unassisted becomes blurred.

    People have a tendancy to play down the role that steroids have played in their training success, whilst people have added 150lbs to their deadlift in a few years or doubled their bench in two years.

    Not on a crusade; but I do think the widespread use of steroids is indicative of the quick-fix culture of modern society.
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 17:22:12 (permalink)
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    a lot of men seem to be dropping like flies when they reach there 50s these days and most prob have never taken a steroid in there life.

    I dont think there is a clear cut case for it however the only thing i am sure of is everybody is different and reacts different.

    The music is chilling in that footage though...made me scared actually lol
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 17:31:34 (permalink)
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    I'm totally ignorant about the health risks but if steroids allowed me to get a look that I thought was good, that I did not think I could achieve naturally, then I would probaly do steroids. I don't find the steroid look appealing so I have no desire to go down that route anyway.
     
     
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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 17:57:39 (permalink)
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    Glaring error in that report.
     
    GHB is NOT a steriod. Never has been and never will be. Yes it does get you all funny but I never found it addictive. Can't believe that guy drove whilst taking it, deadly. Umm and while we are at it how stupid is "the fat just dropped off me". You don't lose fat because you take substances (well unless it's DNP!) you lose it because energy out exceeds energy in. G is thought to encourage natural production of growth hormone but I wouldn't say taking it results in weight dropping off!

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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 17:59:59 (permalink)
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    The guy on liquid XTC seemed like a right idiot. How could you not realise!

    What is the theory behind what the last guy was saying,

    "You plant one little tiny seed of anabolic steroids in your body, even one cycle, then that seed grows! Imbedded in every cell in your body, over years and years and years untill, a tumour, cancer etc.."

    Is it just complete rubbish? I would of that damage would be done on the cycle and then your body do what it could to sort things out, not keep getting worse once all steroids had stopped..?

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    Re:steds (not a joke) 2009/08/03 18:03:51 (permalink)
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    Jack
     
    I actually took that as a reference to possible addiction. Basically he was saying you are opening yourself up to future, long-term sides. Albeit in a very bad way!

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