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2006/07/16 19:36:20 (permalink)
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street wardens

Do street wardens have any authority/powers?,these are like wannabe coppers that harass teenagers for standing about on street corners.
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    Wushu
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 19:38:57 (permalink)
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    I think i heard on the news they will be given more power to target anti social behaviour amongst young teenagers etc - people loitering and dropping cigarette buds
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 19:41:51 (permalink)
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    they are arses i watched them move on a guy busking,yesterday he was good as well.i don't think they have very many powers,but they are in direct contact with the police by radio.
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 19:44:26 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Wushu

    I think i heard on the news they will be given more power to target anti social behaviour amongst young teenagers etc - people loitering and dropping cigarette buds


    loitering,think its unfair on teenagers,we've just been for a walk and saw a group of about 6 lads and lasses just stood talking get moved on for nothing by two wardens.

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 19:47:22 (permalink)
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    They make people feel uneasy & intimidated mate, if i was part of the group i'd expect it.
    Infact i'd expect to me stopped, searched & have to give my details.

    Pity the wardens cant search them, this is what they should be allowed to do IMO. It's hardly wasting their time if they're just sat their playing with themselves either - In this area it'd prob take a knife off the streets too.

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 19:53:53 (permalink)
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    they only reason why they move people on is because they have had a complaint from member of public, they wouldn't move you on if they hadn't. Some people forget that they was children once and did the same thing, but then in there day it was more exceptable than it is now, i think since the invention of the 'hoodie' it has gone wrong (to most people anyway, want proof listen to the tv or read the papers, all 'thugs' wear hoodie tops, stupid ain't it). people stereotype WAY too much these days.

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 19:56:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: richsINS

    They make people feel uneasy & intimidated mate, if i was part of the group i'd expect it.
    Infact i'd expect to me stopped, searched & have to give my details.

    Pity the wardens cant search them, this is what they should be allowed to do IMO. It's hardly wasting their time if they're just sat their playing with themselves either - In this area it'd prob take a knife off the streets too.




    If its a large group being roudy,swearing drinking ect. then fair enough

    We were all teenagers once and i would guess most of us used to hang around with our mates,is that wrong?

    Were are they supposed to go?
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 20:05:11 (permalink)
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    I know a lass that is 7st soaking wet (that does the job you talk of) and if she goes into a group of teenaged lads the will take notice of what she ask's. Its not that there are no places for the teenages to go now they just want to hang around the street's. myself i used to go scrumping and have catapult fights in the plum orchards lol those were the days.20yrs ago lots has changed since then. ever thing cost money now and parents of younger childern are more aware of things that happen due to the media.



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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 20:16:37 (permalink)
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    I hate them... we rang up the local council once to remove a remove a freezer and they said they wud do it in the next afternoon! but they didnt come, for like 5 days. So we had wardens knocking on our door all time "who bloody work for the council" telling us to move it or face fines! being the person he is my dad said move it yourselfs or **** off! I think they can hand out fines or something! but I doubt i would be hanging around and giving my details for them to do so!
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 20:24:08 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: TREBOR


    ORIGINAL: richsINS

    They make people feel uneasy & intimidated mate, if i was part of the group i'd expect it.
    Infact i'd expect to me stopped, searched & have to give my details.

    Pity the wardens cant search them, this is what they should be allowed to do IMO. It's hardly wasting their time if they're just sat their playing with themselves either - In this area it'd prob take a knife off the streets too.




    If its a large group being roudy,swearing drinking ect. then fair enough

    We were all teenagers once and i would guess most of us used to hang around with our mates,is that wrong?

    Were are they supposed to go?



    Yeah i agree mate, why aren't they allowed to be together in a public area. Im 19 so isn't like it was 30years ago for me, however we went to someones house or in their garden.

    We rarely walked the streets(Although yeh i did when i was 9/10 years old to around 12 or so). Trouble starts when they're bored and ON the streets.

    id rather they got bored in a park than on the streets where temptations or dares such as Theft, Robbery, violence may happen.
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 20:28:17 (permalink)
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    I work a country park and we dont have much trouble. if we do we go out and kick ass lol, But then i used to go to the same country park and all sorts of things happend lol fires, fishing without tickets, swimming in the lake oh what a Rebal i was lol and now i have grown up a little i would never swim in that lake coz i know what germs there are

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 21:47:20 (permalink)
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    My old mans a PSO (think that's what they are called) and they don't have powers as such.. They can stop people doing things, etc... but cannot arrest people. Personally i think they're a good idea, but i'm bound to say that if my old man is one... If they weren't needed, then there wouldn't be so many of them..

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 21:51:48 (permalink)
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    I think there a good idea but from what i saw tonight some seem to be on a power trip.
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 22:45:48 (permalink)
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    it is a dangerous and thankless job these days,if all teenagers were the same ,(nice and quiet sensible) we wouldnt need street wardens.fact is most teenagers now dont care who they upset or annoy.why do they need to be on the street in gangs?why arnt they doing something with their lives?they have a distinct lack of respect for other people and think your property is theirs.conscription from 16 to 18 yrs old would teach them how to respect themselves and pthers,then we could get rid of the wardens.
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 22:47:05 (permalink)
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    I think there a good idea but from what i saw tonight some seem to be on a power trip


    it wasnt an ex mt member was it ?, he is distinguishable by his large and powerfull build and black belt in ikea

    sorry to 99% of mt mebers who will have no idea what i am on about
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 22:49:42 (permalink)
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    eeerm got me confused but granted thats not difficult
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    I think there a good idea but from what i saw tonight some seem to be on a power trip


    it wasnt an ex mt member was it ?, he is distinguishable by his large and powerfull build and black belt in ikea

    sorry to 99% of mt mebers who will have no idea what i am on about

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 23:00:18 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ginasmg

    why do they need to be on the street in gangs?why arnt they doing something with their lives?


    Its the middle of summer ffs and they are teenagers why shouldn't they be outside enjoying the nice weather,see plenty of old blokes sat in groups cracking on,groups of blokes and women outside the local getting p!ssed.

    Think some people seem to forget they were young once.

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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 23:08:09 (permalink)
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    Interesting topic this......

    Me and AP were once witness to a group of rogue street wardens who were engaged in a massive rivalry with two notorious local groups around here, the Southside Warriors and the Man Dem Boyz. Apparently, the feud started over the ownership of a large area of pavement containing 2 benches, and a phone booth, outside the local Peugeot dealership.

    The phone booth was used for drug dealing allegedly and as the group of Street Wardens had to the monopoly on the local viagra distribution, and the Southside Warriors the monopoly on the local prescription only trade (through the 2nd in commands aunty being a part time assistant at Boots Pharmacy) distributed from the bench on the far right of the pavement, the Man Dem Boyz thought they could muscle in on both markets by destroying the 2 benches and the phone booth, i.e. the offices of trade of the 2 other groups.

    The Street Wardens had reinforcements through the police and frequently shopped Southside Warriors for their illegal actions. This caused friction between the 2 gangs, which led to the Southside Warriors merking 2 of the Street Wardens with tennis raquets whilst they were waiting for their chinese takeaway to be cooked (in the Chinese takeaway owned by local Triad boss Toni Rodrigues)

    This triple threat dilemma came to an abrupt end when there were rumours going round the ends that the Man Dem Boyz, who wanted to muscle in on both markets, planned to drive a stolen JCB Digger (stolen from the construction site for a new Eye Hospital) through the paved area containing the phone booth and benches. However, police intelligence foiled this plan, after influence from the Street Wardens, and on the night of the planned attack, a viscous substance (thought to be a combination of oil, maple syrup and corn starch) was painted on the floor by 2 uniform officers seen getting out of a 'Panda' car.

    When the JCB was driven onto the area, the lack of grip resulted in it careering off track and smashing through the bench that the Southside Warriors operated and was diverted into the Peugeot garage showroom window, wiping out a fleet of Peugeot 405's that were due to be purchased as company cars for a local businessman, Colin Carter (aka Shark Teeth) who owned a mackerel importing business from Costa Rica.

    Needless to say, the plan was a failure, and the Man Dem Boyz laid low after this and ventured into other avenues, leaving the 'Phone Booth' Street Wardens (as they became know) to keep their trade and remove all potential threats to their business, which was confirmed after their Leader did a thorough SWOT analysis, using skills learnt from the St Christopher and John the Holy Baptist the 2nd Church's (the Church we bounce at for the youth club) evening classes.

    The moral to the story is Wardens do have authority and will often flout it, so stay on the right side of them or you may find yourself without a motor, and a regular supply of mackarel.
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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 23:13:36 (permalink)
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    i have no problems with young lads enjoying themselves at all,but unfortunatly nowadays young lads seem to be different,i never broke into anyones house or smashed up a bus shelter for no reason,or abused people as they go past,etc i enjoyed myself as a teenager but not at the expense of other people now they dont care who they hurl abuse at or rob as there is little or no consiquense for their actions,when we were teens we were slapped round the head diddnt hurt us.today we are too soft with them and they take the piss as i say they dont seem to care.
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    ORIGINAL: ginasmg

    why do they need to be on the street in gangs?why arnt they doing something with their lives?


    Its the middle of summer ffs and they are teenagers why shouldn't they be outside enjoying the nice weather,see plenty of old blokes sat in groups cracking on,groups of blokes and women outside the local getting p!ssed.

    Think some people seem to forget they were young once.



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    RE: street wardens 2006/07/16 23:26:53 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: ginasmg

    i have no problems with young lads enjoying themselves at all,but unfortunatly nowadays young lads seem to be different,i never broke into anyones house or smashed up a bus shelter for no reason,or abused people as they go past,etc i enjoyed myself as a teenager but not at the expense of other people now they dont care who they hurl abuse at or rob as there is little or no consiquense for their actions,when we were teens we were slapped round the head diddnt hurt us.today we are too soft with them and they take the piss as i say they dont seem to care.
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    ORIGINAL: ginasmg

    Thats such a sweeping statement,your basically saying ALL youngsters now are bad which isn't the case,what about the mods and rockers back in the good old days of the 50s-60s they didn't cause any trouble did they?

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