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stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is?

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2007/06/20 17:20:51 (permalink)
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stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is?

ever since splitting with my mrs for the 1st time, 3 weeks ago today, then getting back with her for a few days, then splitting again a week ago, i look like ive lost size quite dramatically if im honest. ok, ive not been training properly over the last 3 weeks - but seen as im on gear, i assumed id keep all my LBM! i havent been eating properly either, but i put this down to stress making me feel ill and therefore unable to shovel down my usual 7 meals a day.

got back to the gym finally on monday, last time i weighed in there i was 16st 13lbs - monday... 16st 0lbs... nearly 1 stone lost!

i suppose on the good side (might as well try and stay optimistic!) i seem to have lost some fat too, belt can be tightened another notch now. but still i feel deflated. must get eating and training hard again!
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    freak_in_cage
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/20 20:31:13 (permalink)
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    good luck dude

    seriously doubt u will have lost 13 lbs of muscle in that time m8

    reckon a week back on track and u will be nearly where u started. heck- dehydration could account for 2-3 lbs of it!
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/20 20:34:05 (permalink)
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    I think stress is devastating to muscle gains. Ive always noticed i gain better when im going through a pleasent period in life than a turbulant one.

    " Do not tell me to play the hand i've been dealt. To hell with the cards and damn the dealer! Any man can achieve anything if he works hard enough, and thats the truth of it. Go at it with all that you are, and it is within your reach"
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/20 21:07:12 (permalink)
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    Personally, I think stress has zero effect on muscle gains. Some of my best gains were made when I was extremely stressed out, worrying, and basically a mess

    Now if for some reason your stress is causing you to have a terrible diet and stop training....

    Well those things are bad for gains, sure
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/20 21:13:11 (permalink)
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    Now if for some reason your stress is causing you to have a terrible diet and stop training....

    Well those things are bad for gains, sure


    They were definatly mutually exclusive for me. Stress for me = Low appetite, bad moods, terrible strength etc etc.

    When im happy, you can reverse it! Particularly strength wise, its an odd one, but thats definatly something that stress effects with me.

    " Do not tell me to play the hand i've been dealt. To hell with the cards and damn the dealer! Any man can achieve anything if he works hard enough, and thats the truth of it. Go at it with all that you are, and it is within your reach"
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/20 21:35:41 (permalink)
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    Stress = elevated cortisol levels = catabolic

    ^ though how much effect this would have in the real world is ~

    Though as DirtyVest4 says, the stress can drive you to work twice as hard anyway

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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 02:45:18 (permalink)
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    If it can be harnassed, it can be a powerful motivational tool, but the diet has to be good.
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 03:47:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: drab4

    Personally, I think stress has zero effect on muscle gains. Some of my best gains were made when I was extremely stressed out, worrying, and basically a mess

    Now if for some reason your stress is causing you to have a terrible diet and stop training....

    Well those things are bad for gains, sure


    I agree with this, it's obviously very easy to confuse mental stress with the physical symptoms of crap appetite, less intense training, less sleep or whatever. I also have made better gains when stressed but with a decent routine than very happy with a crap routine.
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 05:44:23 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: drab4

    Personally, I think stress has zero effect on muscle gains. Some of my best gains were made when I was extremely stressed out, worrying, and basically a mess

    makes sense really. In the olden days, it wouldn't make sense if males got weaker in stressfull situations, if anything the opposite is more likely.

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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 10:38:31 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: drab4

    Personally, I think stress has zero effect on muscle gains. Some of my best gains were made when I was extremely stressed out, worrying, and basically a mess

    Now if for some reason your stress is causing you to have a terrible diet and stop training....

    Well those things are bad for gains, sure



    Agree with the above.

    When I'm stressed I tend to push myself a lot harder and certainly reap the rewards. Only problem is that Im more likely to drink a lot when Im stressed, but I dont think the stress itself does the damage if that makes sense.

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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 10:49:28 (permalink)
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    Hapeened to me too mate when i was going through a bad patch with the GF

    I was barley training but eating well and just ended up putting on loads of fat

    How is everything now?

    Clear yorur mind, get back to the gym and take it out on the weights.....her loss dude
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 11:37:09 (permalink)
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    Stress generally comes about because you have an overriding issue you are sorting out.

    Any thing that comes before my training is a distraction and is detrimental (to my training)

    So yeah bad thing for sure.
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 12:21:02 (permalink)
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    For me its bad, and increased cortisol levels mean less muscle tissue more abdominal fat. I made my best gains when I was in college, lived with my mum and had an easy, low stress life.
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    RE: stress - the most catabolic, detrimental to bulking thing there is? 2007/06/21 14:03:57 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: drab4

    Now if for some reason your stress is causing you to have a terrible diet and stop training....

    Well those things are bad for gains, sure



    thats what it is doing mate, im not sleeping till about 3am every night, eating 4-5 meals per day max (normally 7) and ive trained once in 2 weeks, just due to complete lack of motivation. i am slowly coming round to getting back to normal now tho, eating a bit more this week, and should be back in the gym again tonight.


    ORIGINAL: DEAD_WEIGHT

    How is everything now?

    Clear yorur mind, get back to the gym and take it out on the weights.....her loss dude


    things arent too bad, she came round last night , went out for a meal etc and she slept over but im having to try to detach myself emotionally for the situation, cos when he comes out in 4 weeks or so, im not going to get to see her really, and she has to prove to me that its me she wants to be with basically by not going back to him. time will tell.

    im also meeting up with another girl on saturday too who i was going to take out about 6 months ago, then i ended up getting back with my ex ex mrs, anyhow, still had her number in my little black book, so gave her a text and should be meeting her in town on saturday night

    post edited by BigMe - 2007/06/21 14:04:49
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