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2015/01/17 14:22:40 (permalink)
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supstitute mas, instead of test

anyone done this . doing this ?
using mast instead of test with a cycle example deca or something to avoid gyno for the gyno prone guys
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    Re: 2015/01/17 14:41:22 (permalink)
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    Mast is meant to help stop e conversion of other gear.

    I wouldn't run Mast without test especially if deca of Tren was involved, I've never used deca though
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    Re: 2015/01/17 14:52:38 (permalink)
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    yeah mast is supposed to drop out gyno completely , is also an anti e and a test substitute
    so would make sense to run mast instead of test surely gains will be a little slower yeah and less water but less water can only be a good thing imo
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    Re: 2015/01/17 15:13:54 (permalink)
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    If you are sure that it is genuine Masteron then you can get away without Test as the Mast will support your libido.
    If its genuine that is, Masteron is one of the most faked AAS due to its price.
    Personally I never run a cycle without some Test even if its a very low dose.

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    Re: 2015/01/17 15:13:55 (permalink)
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    You can more or less replace test with mast. It's not quite the same, not as anabolic or as good for libido but close enough. A lot more expensive though.
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    Re: 2015/01/17 15:21:00 (permalink)
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    I didn't realise it was the most faked or that it was the most expensive.
    I'm on 375mg Mast e per week and I still need my daily adex, I tired to take it less frequently and my body didn't like it.

    It's wildcat 800 blend so I'm hoping it does contain masteron.
    My libodo has dropped massively now I've dropped the proviron for masteron, I trust wildcat gear but you just never know.

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    Re: 2015/01/17 15:28:05 (permalink)
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    One of the most faked along with Tren.
    Think you will be fine with W.C. mate 

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    Re: 2015/01/17 15:44:01 (permalink)
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    My libodo has dropped massively now I've dropped the proviron for masteron, I trust wildcat gear but you just never know.

    Could be nothing wrong with your gear, people just seem to think masteron is a very powerful androgen (like proviron) but it's really not. It's usually said it's a strong androgen because it's a DHT derivative but that's faulty logic, it's a synthetic steroid modified to be immune to 3a-HSD (what kills DHT in muscles and makes it useless as an anabolic) but the modifications also make it much, much weaker. In reality it's less androgenic than test since a good deal of your test converts to actual DHT.
     
    It does have some anti-estrogenic effect but people forget that it's not meant to be used by guys on steroids. It does seem to inhibit aromatase activity somewhat (though nothing like an AI), but much if not most of its anti-gyno effect on men comes from the combination of decent androgenic effect and suppression of natural testosterone/estrogen production. If you're injecting exogenous testosterone along with it this last part no longer applies.
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    Re: 2015/01/17 16:12:43 (permalink)
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    so id benefit still runing some kind of test along with the mast 
     
    will probably do a blend long ester and a short ester blend 
    Test/tren/mast 280mg/ml (120test-e/80tren-e/80mast-e)
    Rip blend 220mg/ml (100test-p/80tren-acc/40mast-acc)
    for the latter 10-20 weeks of my cycle maybe still chuck some eq in 
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    Re: 2015/01/17 16:25:59 (permalink)
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    Looks like it's best, just in case the mast isn't legit or full dose.

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    Re: 2015/01/17 21:18:10 (permalink)
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    I wasnt aware that tren was faked a lot. Faked as in it has something else in it or it has nowt in it?
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    Re: 2015/01/18 00:32:24 (permalink)
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    Tren used to be faked a lot when you had to get it from cow pellets. Nowadays it's everywhere and not that expensive, it's not faked that often. It's also kinda hard to fake tren, with mast you can just put some eq or winstrol or something like that in the vial and most people won't tell the difference, tren's effects are pretty distinctive, there's nothing cheaper that'll pass for it.
     
    The only tren I'd say is still commonly faked is tren hex. It's very rare, ridiculously expensive and aside from placebo effect it's pretty much exactly the same as tren E. Most supposed tren hex is found in "tri tren" products which actually just contain tren ace and E.
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    Re: 2015/01/18 06:29:08 (permalink)
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    with mast you can just put some eq or winstrol or something like that in the vial and most people won't tell the difference, 
     

     
    Winstrol? lol

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    Re: 2015/01/18 12:40:07 (permalink)
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    Uriel
    Tren used to be faked a lot when you had to get it from cow pellets. Nowadays it's everywhere and not that expensive, it's not faked that often. It's also kinda hard to fake tren, with mast you can just put some eq or winstrol or something like that in the vial and most people won't tell the difference, tren's effects are pretty distinctive, there's nothing cheaper that'll pass for it.
     
    The only tren I'd say is still commonly faked is tren hex. It's very rare, ridiculously expensive and aside from placebo effect it's pretty much exactly the same as tren E. Most supposed tren hex is found in "tri tren" products which actually just contain tren ace and E.




    Agreed fakes are easy to notice , but only after one has injected it for a while.
     
    I can`t see what the fuss is over Tren Hex as apart from the different estering I cant see any advantage to it.
    I have used it but it was in a triple blend with Tren A and Tren Enth.

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    Re: 2015/01/18 12:46:06 (permalink)
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    silent rep
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    with mast you can just put some eq or winstrol or something like that in the vial and most people won't tell the difference, 
     

     
    Winstrol? lol


    It's A LOT cheaper than mast, and will produce the effects people expect from it - lean, dry muscles and good strength gains.
     
    I've seen my fair share of people complaining about sore joints from (supposedly) mast. Suspicious as I've used mast before from good labs and had no problems with my joints at all, whereas with winny I notice them getting stiffer by the day.
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