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2004/03/02 10:00:20 (permalink)
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thinning down after bulking

Hi!

I've been on Frankie NY's program for a couple of months now, and the results are starting to show. I plan to be on this program for a long time yet, however i wanna know when the time comes, how would one go about thinning down?

Afaik, bulk is created when there is a caloric surplus, and thinning down involves a caloric deficit. What would happen to the muscle mass and fat if you started deficiting your calories?

How would i adjust my diet to suit the thinning down? How would i adjust my program? reps and sets? cardio on which days?

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    symzie
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/02 12:10:40 (permalink)
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    I've never done it or needed to lol but seeing as you haven't got any answers yet - very basically - keep weight lifting, keep protein high, gradually cut down carbs (slowly replace stachy stuff with fiberous carbs eg more veggies to fill you up, less pasta) gradually increase cardio, the most important word being "gradually"
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/02 13:43:43 (permalink)
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    you can start thinning down anytime you want. it all depends on your personal wants. if you are wanting to look alittle more cut up then lsoe some weight, but if you don't really care then i would stay with bulking forever.

    like symzie said high protein, GRADUALLY cutting calories and increasing cardio. you don't want to jump into anything right away. rep ranges don't really matter when it comes to losing weight, jsut stay with the work out you have been doing. you might lose alittle strength but thats just telling you your eating to little and your losing muscle.
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/04 06:43:44 (permalink)
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    when thinning down, will that create any loss of muscle mass? will it slow down the bulking process?
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/04 13:41:31 (permalink)
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    well when you thin down your not going to be getting any bulk out of it, so yes it will slow down the bulk process. YOu can thin down without losing any muscle it just takes discipline.
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/08 12:08:05 (permalink)
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    autiger, isnt it posible that some of the loss of strength is due to depleated glycogen levels in the muscles rather than just a loss of muscle mass?
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/08 16:17:50 (permalink)
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    yes that is true and actually that is happening to me right now while i am on a thinning down cycle. my lifts were either staying the same or going down until cashman told me to have some maltodextrinase before workouts and I have noticed a huge energy surplus for workouts. Lifts don't progress very fast but they stay the same which is fine with me until i start bulking again.
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/08 18:39:28 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by AUTIGER

    well when you thin down your not going to be getting any bulk out of it, so yes it will slow down the bulk process. YOu can thin down without losing any muscle it just takes discipline.



    how and what do you need to do to thin down and not lose muscle?
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/08 19:18:33 (permalink)
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    There are a lot of strategies to avoiding entering a catabolic state while cutting. The most important is ensuring that the calories that you are consuming are clean, often (at least 6x a day), contain enough protein, and have a low GI. Also, water consumption and training hard are necessary as well. There are some suppliements and drugs that are anti-catabolic and can help in the effort (such as ECA).
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    RE: thinning down after bulking 2004/03/08 21:45:55 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by IrishRunt

    quote:
    Originally posted by AUTIGER

    well when you thin down your not going to be getting any bulk out of it, so yes it will slow down the bulk process. YOu can thin down without losing any muscle it just takes discipline.



    how and what do you need to do to thin down and not lose muscle?



    like psyo said there are a lot of strategies. I just don't drop my calories to low and eat clean. if you see muscle loss then maybe your eating to little
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