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2007/06/20 12:33:36 (permalink)
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var alternative please help

right im looking at an 8 week var cycle... but at 50mg ED the price is like ... a lot...
is winny a good substitute? would it be as good to run winny for 6 week as it wud to run VAr for 8 weeks and at what dosage??

thanks in advance
post edited by mdirvi - 2007/06/23 22:34:56
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    anz3001
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 12:50:47 (permalink)
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    edit the price mate !

    we all know var is expensive.

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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 13:32:50 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    right im looking at an 8 week var cycle... but at 50mg ED the price is like £xxxis winny a good substitute? would it be as good to run winny for 6 week as it wud to run VAr for 8 weeks and at what dosage??

    thanks in advance


    In short IMO...

    Winny is no substitute for var ...

    Also you need to edit the price
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 13:35:33 (permalink)
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    Tbol or winny could be used as a replacement but they will not mimic var exactly otherwise they would BE var

    Some people actually prefer var over winny.

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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 13:50:54 (permalink)
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    I'd say t-bol.... I've heard too many complaints about joint aches on winny... that in itself puts it outside anything I would want to take!!

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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 14:12:15 (permalink)
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    Use tbol instead mate

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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 15:48:09 (permalink)
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    var is the price it is because of its unique properties, if there was a alternitive there wouldnt be any need for var so really your either going to have to pay the money or change your goals. really i dont know why you would want to do a var only cycle anyway
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 15:59:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mick_the_brick


    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    right im looking at an 8 week var cycle... but at 50mg ED the price is like £xxxis winny a good substitute? would it be as good to run winny for 6 week as it wud to run VAr for 8 weeks and at what dosage??

    thanks in advance


    In short IMO...

    Winny is no substitute for var ...

    Also you need to edit the price


    i dont know, i've heard it referred to as a poor mans var a few times, even a couple of times on here.

    and agree about editting price!
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 17:36:13 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Big D


    ORIGINAL: mick_the_brick


    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    right im looking at an 8 week var cycle... but at 50mg ED the price is like £xxxis winny a good substitute? would it be as good to run winny for 6 week as it wud to run VAr for 8 weeks and at what dosage??

    thanks in advance


    In short IMO...

    Winny is no substitute for var ...

    Also you need to edit the price


    LOL

    I've ran both on seperate occasions...

    and the winny was no where near the var IME/IMO

    i dont know, i've heard it referred to as a poor mans var a few times, even a couple of times on here.

    and agree about editting price!

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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 20:55:36 (permalink)
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    I agree Var is an expensive med....but like the others have said, it depends on your goals I guess.

    If you only want to do a couple of cycles a year, it doesn't work out that expensive overall.

    Some people I've talked to really rate Var, whilst others say it's too expensive for the overall gains you get when there are cheaper, more effective alternatives.

    From what I have researched though, Var seems to be a very good all-around med.

    Fat Loss
    Does not aromatize (no worry of gyno or estrogen related sides)
    Increased Strength
    Increased Protein Synthesis + 44% (so if you're diet is good, you should gains some mass)
    Increased Collegen Synthesis = stronger joints and tendons + healing (similar to deca in this respect)
    Mild side effects

    So I guess its only major downfall is the price!!!
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 22:19:56 (permalink)
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    Do you need PCT for Var then if there are no Estrogen related sides?
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 22:44:44 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Thal

    Do you need PCT for Var then if there are no Estrogen related sides?


    Yep...
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/20 22:58:59 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mick_the_brick


    ORIGINAL: Big D


    ORIGINAL: mick_the_brick


    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    right im looking at an 8 week var cycle... but at 50mg ED the price is like £xxxis winny a good substitute? would it be as good to run winny for 6 week as it wud to run VAr for 8 weeks and at what dosage??

    thanks in advance


    In short IMO...

    Winny is no substitute for var ...

    Also you need to edit the price


    LOL

    I've ran both on seperate occasions...

    and the winny was no where near the var IME/IMO

    i dont know, i've heard it referred to as a poor mans var a few times, even a couple of times on here.

    and agree about editting price!




    well i cant argue with that, i havent tried winny for myself yet
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    mdirvi
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    RE: var alternative please help 2007/06/23 22:40:22 (permalink)
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    sorry guys... knew you cudnt discuss a source but didnt know you could write a price... apologise... edited :(

    my goals when contemplating this have been mild gains (now i no im gonna get flamed for writin this but try understand) mild/moderate gains with no bloat and ofcorse everyone's favourite requirement from a cycle, minimal to no sides :) basically i dont want to bloat up and put a load of mass on so that you can look at me and go, yeh he's on gear clearly

    so iv rethought my cycle (proposed cycle) for your more knowledgeable guru's to critique

    1 – 10 Test Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
    1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

    OR EVEN BETTER

    1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
    1 – 12 LETRO!!!!
    12 - 15 PCT nolva @ 60/40/20

    i DONT WANT OO MUCH MASS TOO QUICK IF UZ UNDERSTAND?

    thanks in advance guys and again, sorry about writin a price
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