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2005/07/28 19:00:01 (permalink)
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what do you lateral raise?

ok, two dumbell, what do you lift for lateral raises and for how many reps?

Reason I ask is that my shoulders are growing and most of my weights are steadily going up, but my lateral raises still float at around 12kg dumbells for 8 reps.

The thing is, a lot of the guys at our gym seems to do this. YOu never see anyone lifting MAHOOSIVE weights.

Why isn't the weight going up like others?

Just curious!

cheers!
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    jack hammer
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:03:56 (permalink)
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    60 lbs. for 8 strict reps.

    Let it sink.... I can swim.
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:09:41 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mak

    ok, two dumbell, what do you lift for lateral raises and for how many reps?

    Reason I ask is that my shoulders are growing and most of my weights are steadily going up, but my lateral raises still float at around 12kg dumbells for 8 reps.

    The thing is, a lot of the guys at our gym seems to do this. YOu never see anyone lifting MAHOOSIVE weights.

    Why isn't the weight going up like others?

    Just curious!

    cheers!



    ????????????

    That is a bit weird mate....you've been posting here about a year, if you've been training all that time, I'd have thought you'd be going heavier...

    Mine are 25Kg, 3 x 6, but that's due a raise (no pun intended!).

    KS
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:11:59 (permalink)
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    Hypertrophy has 'relatively' little to do with strength gain in absolute terms...alot of the strength gain is down to the CNS adaptations to the stimulus as far as I'm aware

    That's why it's possible to gain muscle from moving pansy-ish poundages for high reps

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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:12:39 (permalink)
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    30kilo combined, Oh and for 6 reps.
    post edited by lilbigman - 2005/07/28 19:13:43
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:14:29 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozay


    ORIGINAL: mak

    ok, two dumbell, what do you lift for lateral raises and for how many reps?

    Reason I ask is that my shoulders are growing and most of my weights are steadily going up, but my lateral raises still float at around 12kg dumbells for 8 reps.

    The thing is, a lot of the guys at our gym seems to do this. YOu never see anyone lifting MAHOOSIVE weights.

    Why isn't the weight going up like others?

    Just curious!

    cheers!



    ????????????

    That is a bit weird mate....you've been posting here about a year, if you've been training all that time, I'd have thought you'd be going heavier...

    Mine are 25Kg, 3 x 6, but that's due a raise (no pun intended!).

    KS


    Id pay to see your form with 25kg dumbells lol (in each hand I presume you mean)

    I used 15kgs braced against a bench with textbook form, which I have seen no one duplicate in my gym whilst I have military pressed 90kgs.

    I doubt you lateral 25s properly.

    Not flaming you I just dont see it myself.

    Mak dont worry too much about the weight on laterals. Focus on really isolating the side delt. I brace myself against an upright bench with a slight lean forward which makes is that much harder but makes sure I use my side delts and only my side delts to get the weight up with no swing.
    post edited by The Dark Knight - 2005/07/28 19:17:40
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:15:19 (permalink)
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    2 30 lb dumbbells for 3 sets of 8...with the strictest correct form.
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:18:58 (permalink)
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    Tiny little 7.5kg DBs when I did them

    for 3x8
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:20:34 (permalink)
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    I hardly ever see anyone doing these correctly. I have seen guys pick up 30kg and have a go with them, moving their upper body legs and all sorts flapping around to get the weight up. People bend at the elbow too much too.

    Personally If I do do them (which is very rare) I use 12.5kg at the most.
    post edited by Chez - 2005/07/28 19:21:46
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:20:49 (permalink)
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    HA, SORRY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!

    I refer to them as 'Shoulder Fly's' - so I was thinking about another movement altogether!!!!!!

    Duhhhhhhh!!!

    But TDK mate, I'm still not a million miles off - I used to do 20Kg with strict form for 3 x 6, and in the olden days 17.5Kg for 3 x 10. I haven't done it recently for a while, and I'm stronger now than then.

    Now I know the movement in question, Mak's difficulties don't seem so strange any more...

    KS
    post edited by Keyser Sozay - 2005/07/28 19:23:50
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:20:58 (permalink)
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    personally i think lateral raises arent the best exercise for shoulders and have found better gains doing standing overhead presses


    "Always act as though it were impossible to fail."

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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:22:01 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: The Dark Knight

    ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozay


    ORIGINAL: mak

    ok, two dumbell, what do you lift for lateral raises and for how many reps?

    Reason I ask is that my shoulders are growing and most of my weights are steadily going up, but my lateral raises still float at around 12kg dumbells for 8 reps.

    The thing is, a lot of the guys at our gym seems to do this. YOu never see anyone lifting MAHOOSIVE weights.

    Why isn't the weight going up like others?

    Just curious!

    cheers!



    ????????????

    That is a bit weird mate....you've been posting here about a year, if you've been training all that time, I'd have thought you'd be going heavier...

    Mine are 25Kg, 3 x 6, but that's due a raise (no pun intended!).

    KS


    Id pay to see your form with 25kg dumbells lol (in each hand I presume you mean)

    I used 15kgs braced against a bench with textbook form, which I have seen no one duplicate in my gym whilst I have military pressed 90kgs.

    I doubt you lateral 25s properly.

    Not flaming you I just dont see it myself.

    Mak dont worry too much about the weight on laterals. Focus on really isolating the side delt. I brace myself against an upright bench with a slight lean forward which makes is that much harder but makes sure I use my side delts and only my side delts to get the weight up with no swing.



    Agree with TDK...Id pay to see u doing fullmotion in strict form with that weight!
    15 KG is bloody heavy TDK,I had bloody strong shoulders before i had 18 months out and 15 KG is very hard work to do a set with!
    25kgs must be using some serious ballistics there!
    Agree with deiselcage also........i find lat raises pretty sh1te for building decent mass,pressing moves are much more useful.
    post edited by gripperdog1 - 2005/07/28 19:26:47
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:23:30 (permalink)
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    14k x 10/ 15k x 10/ 17k x 5
    I also do front raises and rear delt row then all the heads are "delt" with

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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:33:45 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: S_T_E_F

    14k x 10/ 15k x 10/ 17k x 5
    I also do front raises and rear delt row then all the heads are "delt" with



    lol get ur coat Steff..

    I have hardly ever done isolations like that to hit all the heads of the deltoids, always relied on heavy pressing.
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:38:42 (permalink)
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    Thanks guys. Most of you pushing more weight than me but 'tis okay, I'm not entering any strength comps, just wondered what was up and if this was normal.

    It does seem kinda weird. I started doing 6-8kg dumbells (each side, of course) and have progressed up to 12s (each side). On a very good day I can do 16s, but that's on a REALLY GOOD DAY and when I start on that exercise (rare).

    I also do military press (barbells, dumbells or machines), arnold press, front raises and incline press for shoulders. (Rear delt get done on back day).

    but I like to do lateral raises to isolate the muscles (get better pump too).

    cheers!

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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 19:40:37 (permalink)
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    by the way, chez, noticed that thread with yous pics on. Your stats seem similar to mine.

    about the same heigh, both about 13.5 stone and similar build too.
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 20:26:48 (permalink)
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    17.5kg in each hand, straight armed, very strict, 3 sets of 10reps.

    mcl
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 20:34:02 (permalink)
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    A good few years ago when I was making gains etc. I used to do these with 20kg dumbells , my form was a bit funky on the way up but I used to lower them under control and i made some good gains in mass with this technique. I dont do them at the mo as they aggrevate my tennis elbow for some reason.

    No biggie like, there are a lot worse things for you than using steroids, I mean I probably shouldn't have been smoking crack or getting into bar fights at your age TBH  - drab4

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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 20:40:52 (permalink)
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    Have not done these in a long time.

    I often find form varies between people but when I used t do them they way I did I had very strict form and I used to use 14kg in each hand.
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    RE: what do you lateral raise? 2005/07/28 20:43:08 (permalink)
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    Id pay to see your form with 25kg dumbells lol (in each hand I presume you mean)
    I use more than this. I would be happy to take your money! You just need to come train with me in NYC, USA.

    Let it sink.... I can swim.
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