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2011/03/29 15:50:30 (permalink)
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whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol?

just out of intrest i was wondering what desinger steroids would u guys call to be equivalnt to something like winny/anavar/tbol?
used for cutting up and increasing vascularity with also moderate leanbulk gains?
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 16:22:31 (permalink)
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    I think p-stanz (prostanozol) and f-drol (furazadrol) are similiar to winny ... above all p-stanz!
     
    edit: well some sources for p-stanzas similiar product to winny;
    http://tunedsports.com/de...anozol-orastane-bible/
    http://www.worldclassbody...ms/f395/p-stanz-89217/
     
     
     
     
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 16:50:24 (permalink)
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    nice 1 mate that some good reading there i dont really no much about pro hormones/designer steroids.
     
    what would u say compared to the AAS winny at say 50mg e/d for 6 weeks how would something like p stanz compare at 150mg e/d for 6-7 weeks in terms of gains?
     
    how much of a difference is there really in these clones? i know they obviously must be weaker but if dosages are increased then will effects not be fairly simillar? as the side affects stated in that article sound fairly similar should the gains also not be?
     
    i just dont understand the real difference at the end of the day?
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 17:00:58 (permalink)
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    unfortunately I have a pretty lack of experience in this area: Neither have I ever tried p-stanz myself, nor am I capable of correctly comparing winny with p-stanz.
     
    sorry m8!

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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 17:04:40 (permalink)
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    ok mate just read the second article u posted under the other one, ive not got much a science head on me but from what im gathering is that it has the same chemical compound as winstrol except its missing the 17a-alkylation of winstrol what is 17a-alkylation?  im guessing this means it unmethylated but does that make the difference in potency of the drug 2 then?
     
    finally it says at the bottom of the atricle that Prostanozol was added to Schedule 2 of the UK Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 (effective 23rd December 2009), making it illegal to sell, and illegal to possess in distribution quantities in the UK!

    isn't prostanozol pstanz? 
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 17:11:30 (permalink)
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    I was talking about correctly comparing winny with p-stanz DOSAGES! ;)
     
    well, it's not so agressive on your liver then...
    as far as I know: yes, prostanozol is p-stanz!
     
    I'll have a read on vida's book and also check the black book later! maybe I'll found something interesting!
     
     
    EDIT: BTW, the question was already asked once:
    http://www.muscletalk.co....56117&high=p-stanz
     
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 17:16:41 (permalink)
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    bav212 ...from what im gathering is that it has the same chemical compound as winstrol except its missing the 17a-alkylation of winstrol what is 17a-alkylation?  im guessing this means it unmethylated but does that make the difference in potency of the drug 2 then?

    Yes, that's all correct.
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 17:21:10 (permalink)
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    i have used prostanozolol at 250 mg per day it was pretty good!
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 17:58:33 (permalink)
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    dragon nutrition have u ever used AAS like winny/tbol could u compare it to something like that?
     
    anyway how were u gains from it strength/vasularity/muscledefinition?
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 18:07:22 (permalink)
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    hi mate,yes used winny tbol and anavar.
     
    i cant say to much or ill be breaking the ad rules here on mt.
     
    although a few years back i posted [as meat 05]
     
    my thoughts on a certain popular product here in prohormones that i found/find more effective than winny and tbol and as effective maybe slightly better than var,have a search you may find it.
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 18:29:47 (permalink)
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    mate im lookin and lookin but cant find it u got a **** load of posts as meat 05 lol, can u point me in the right direction? and it shouldnt be breaking the rules at all anyway everyone else talkes about there experience why cant u?
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 18:41:43 (permalink)
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    as a advertiser its breaking the rules to recommend a product i sell mate!
     
    sorry!!
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 18:56:07 (permalink)
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    Dragon nutrition

     hi mate,yes used winny tbol and anavar. 
     i cant say to much or ill be breaking the ad rules here on mate
     although a few years back i posted [as meat 05] 
    my thoughts on a certain popular product here in prohormones that i found/find more effective than winny and tbol and as effective maybe slightly better than var,have a search you may find it.

    Is that really you "meat05"?! Remember you posted some useful posts a few years back.
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 19:01:48 (permalink)
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    yes its me mate,re branded as dragon nutrition!!
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 19:07:21 (permalink)
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    hey dylan was ure whole uptake on this pstanz and winny thing, looking at the link above of the two chemical compounds of supps shows that the only difference between p stanz and winny is that the p stanz is missing the 17a-alkylation meaning its unmethalyted where as winny is methalyted therefore meaning that most of pstanz get destroyed by our liver making it less effective thus higher dosages required whereass winny is methalyted so it withstands our liver and is therefore stronger so less dosage required? am i right in saying this?
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 19:11:30 (permalink)
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    yes that explains it perfectly.
     
     
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 19:26:33 (permalink)
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    hey dylan was ure whole uptake on this pstanz and winny thing, looking at the link above of the two chemical compounds of supps shows that the only difference between p stanz and winny is that the p stanz is missing the 17a-alkylation meaning its unmethalyted where as winny is methalyted therefore meaning that most of pstanz get destroyed by our liver making it less effective thus higher dosages required whereass winny is methalyted so it withstands our liver and is therefore stronger so less dosage required? am i right in saying this?

    I'm not familiar with p-stanz in any context, but, if what you write above is correct, then yes, that's a pretty accurate statement/question. I would be inclined to suggest that even at a higher, reasonably increased, dose it will not be as effective as oral Winny because of the apparent absence of the 17a. The problem being, of course, the issue of passing through the liver. I'm a light-year away from being a chemist, mate, so you might want to seek out more qualified opinions on this one. I tend to stick to giving info on personally tried and tested AASs!
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 20:26:53 (permalink)
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    Dylanpumped I'm not familiar with p-stanz in any context, but, if what you write above is correct, then yes, that's a pretty accurate statement/question. I would be inclined to suggest that even at a higher, reasonably increased, dose it will not be as effective as oral Winny because of the apparent absence of the 17a. The problem being, of course, the issue of passing through the liver.

    The idea behind the THP ether is that some of the steroid is absorbed through the lymphatic system, thereby avoiding first-pass metabolism by the liver. I don't know how effective that is, but obviously it isn't as effective as methylation. 200 - 300mg/day should yield reasonably effective results though.
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 20:31:44 (permalink)
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    henryv

    The idea behind the THP ether is that some of the steroid is absorbed through the lymphatic system, thereby avoiding first-pass metabolism by the liver. I don't know how effective that is, but obviously it isn't as effective as methylation. 200 - 300mg/day should yield reasonably effective results though.

    Yes, I've been advised this before but, like you, I could not say how effective it is. Still, it's an interesting point and useful to know.
    Many thanks.
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    Re:whats a designer equivalnt to winstrol? 2011/03/29 23:32:50 (permalink)
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    this is just dumb man, how this is legal and winny not i will never understand just beacuse winny can withstand being passed though the liver so its chemical compounds can me more effective it has been branded illegal, so really its the chemical 17a-alkylation which is illegal?
     
    fuk the po po
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