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when cutting is daily calorie intake important?

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2009/07/20 18:19:50 (permalink)

when cutting is daily calorie intake important?

i am a complete novice to cutting but am looking to get to around 6-8% bodyfat currently from about 12%. When cutting does it matter how many calories you take in per day as long as carbs are kept low and protein high?

I read the cutting v bulking article and want to follow the meal plan but see there's no mention of total daily calories.

If my protein intake is kept really high and frequent but daily calorie intake is not enough will i lose muscle mass?

Current stats:
6 foot; 14 stone

Bench press: 8 x 115kg
Squat: 8 x 120kg
DB shoulder press: 8 x 36kg
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    PartyBoy
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 18:57:06 (permalink)
    big140

      When cutting does it matter how many calories you take in per day as long as carbs are kept low and protein high?


    Of course it matters. If calories didn't count from protein then the obesity epidemic would be solved simply from avoiding carbohydrates. If you eat 20 chickens a day and nothing else you WILL get fat.


    I read the cutting v bulking article and want to follow the meal plan but see there's no mention of total daily calories.


    Everyone is different. What will be under maintenance calories for one, will be over for someone else.


    If my protein intake is kept really high and frequent but daily calorie intake is not enough will i lose muscle mass?


    Possibly. The trick is not to go too low with cals and starve.

     
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 19:03:48 (permalink)
    so should i try and work out what my daily maintenance calories are then go from there?

    how much below my maintenance amount should i be aiming for?

    if i eat far too little calories on one day can i eat more on the next to even if out or does it not work like that?

    sorry if these seem like stupid questions it's just that i've been on a perma bulk all my life as i'm a hard gainer so have no experience or knowledge of cutting. this in theory (once i've got my knowldge sorted) should be the easy bit.

    Current stats:
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    Bench press: 8 x 115kg
    Squat: 8 x 120kg
    DB shoulder press: 8 x 36kg
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 19:32:48 (permalink)
    so should i try and work out what my daily maintenance calories are then go from there?


    Yes
     
    how much below my maintenance amount should i be aiming for?


    With reduction in calories in and increase in calories out (cardio) around 500 is the maximum deficit you want.
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 19:40:55 (permalink)
    thanks for your answer. so anywhere between 100 - 500 cals below maintenance will only strip fat not muscle?

    Current stats:
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 19:57:59 (permalink)
    100 - 500 cals below maintenance will only strip fat not muscle?


    As long as you continue or increase the weights work that you did to gain that muscle, in fact you should be able to continue to increase the muscle whilst you strip the fat.
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 20:01:53 (permalink)
    sounds like a nice idea but i was on steroids when i bulked so doubt my lifts will be as heavy. am gonna load up on creatine this week though to at least try and keep the intensity high. now i see why so many cut on gear as well. personally i'd only ever use gear to bulk, but that's because i don't gain easily...

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    Squat: 8 x 120kg
    DB shoulder press: 8 x 36kg
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 20:03:34 (permalink)
    I personally think consuming maintenance is fine, and the extra cardio will suffice for weight loss. You'll be maintaining your resistance training, well atleast you should be, this at an estimate will burn off around 200 calories per workout, conbined with cardio, and the effects the boost in metabolism post weight training and post cardio will have. You may be exceeding the limit set down by hamilton. That is my experience of cutting anyhow.

    My advice, consume maintenance and see how the results, if your progress slows or stops, consume another 200 - 300 calories less or up your cardio.
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 20:13:05 (permalink)
    ok mate, makes sense. will give that a bash

    Current stats:
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    Bench press: 8 x 115kg
    Squat: 8 x 120kg
    DB shoulder press: 8 x 36kg
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    Re:when cutting is daily calorie intake important? 2009/07/20 20:54:00 (permalink)
    I personally think consuming maintenance is fine, and the extra cardio will suffice for weight loss. You'll be maintaining your resistance training, well atleast you should be, this at an estimate will burn off around 200 calories per workout, conbined with cardio, and the effects the boost in metabolism post weight training and post cardio will have. You may be exceeding the limit set down by hamilton. That is my experience of cutting anyhow. My advice, consume maintenance and see how the results, if your progress slows or stops, consume another 200 - 300 calories less or up your cardio.


    Agree, spot on.
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