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2011/03/13 12:18:26 (permalink)

whey or soy

seem to have developed a problem with whey, i use it for a fast acting protein source in the morning and before and after training but it does not seem to be digesting fast at all, it just sits there. I've tried moving to different brands isolate and even unflavored, is there a alternative? I've looked into soy but there is lot of different opinions and it would help if it was simplified for me, cheers for any advice.
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    Liddy
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 12:21:05 (permalink)
    I'm just wondering, how do you know it "it just sits there" ??
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    andy25
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 13:36:32 (permalink)
    i eat every 2 1/2 to 3 hours and i'm still burping up my shake when i'm eating my next meal 
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    Gothic_Muscle
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 16:05:23 (permalink)
    Whey hydrolysate maybe or egg white protein?

    Soy sucks, I know it contains all the aminos etc etc but... it still sucks!


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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 17:22:23 (permalink)
    unless you have a serious digestive issue then whey protein on its own is not sitting there for that long. (thats whey in water btw)

    what is the taste you get - with each - is it the same for all brands and flavours.

    Do you have something else at the same time or have it with milk?

    are you just simply gulping it down with a lot of air causing the burping?

    Gothic - there are other issues with Soy which our very own Drew Price has highlighted - I may get chance to find the article very informative.
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 17:30:34 (permalink)
    Soy will give you man boobs :)
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    Big Les
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 17:38:18 (permalink)
    Danny187

    Soy will give you man boobs :)


    oh no it wont ....
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/13 18:01:30 (permalink)
    The taste differs depending on the brand and whether its flavoured or unflavoured.

    I mix it with water and drink it 5-10 mins after its been mixed to ensure no air is trapped but the taste i get when burping is the exact same taste of the shake when consumed. 
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/14 02:46:57 (permalink)
    have you tried switching to a different blend of protein powder

    i wont name names but is some i get on fine with but the cheap ones nack me guts. I feel bloated off them and they give me protein farts

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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/14 17:40:02 (permalink)
    Yawn, any mention of soya & the haters come out of the woodwork citing the usual bro-science.
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/14 20:44:52 (permalink)
    JimXVX

    Yawn, any mention of soya & the haters come out of the woodwork citing the usual bro-science.


    It's hardly bro-science, there's actually a strong body of evidence against the use of non-fermented soy.  As Les has mentioned it's something Drew has addressed before on MT and has a damn good essay on this published on his own site!


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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/15 09:28:00 (permalink)
    Strong body of evidence? I would disagree.  For every anti-soya article anyone mentions (last time this topic cropped up someone cited a study by the Weston Price foundation, an organisation that is nothing but a front for the meat/dairy industry in the US & therefore hardly an impartial observer where plant-based protein is concerned) you could just as easily cite a pile of studies showing links between animal protein & a range of health issues.

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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/15 09:32:17 (permalink)
    You don't need a fast acting protein source in the morning. Just eat breakfast if you're hungry.

    Oh, and JimXVX: Critique THIS.
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/15 09:50:09 (permalink)
    I'm at work so I just read the conclusion of the article you linked to.  I don't have a problem with it; seems to me like the author is saying there's potentially good & bad with soya, but then you could level that critique at meat, dairy, eggs etc.  The author even admits that there's no conclusive evidence soya consumption is bad for you whereas, again, it's not hard to find studies saying just that regarding animal products.

    The problem for me is that most anti-soya stuff (& I'm not inplying the article you referred to here itself but possibly some of the sources it cites) is a thinly-veiled attack on plant-based nutrition based on vested interests in the multi-billion livestock industry who see soya as a threat to their market share.

    It's also worth remembering that a huge amount of commercially grown soya is used in animal feed & as an additive in processed meat products, therefore it is already indirectly consumed by humans in vast quantities.
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    Re:whey or soy 2011/03/15 11:53:24 (permalink)
    Have a smaller serving of whey.

    In all honesty, a blen dwould be better in the morning because youll get something simmilar to 15 grams of whey, 15 grams of egg and 10-15 grams of casein in it, so best to have a blend in the morning which is released over time.

    Then combine that (if not competing) with a large bowl of oats in semi skimmed milk and big dollop of honey with a banana = a bit more protein as well.

    Excellent breakfast.
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