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2007/06/14 00:39:53 (permalink)
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winnie and pct

Hi All,
Got my last post removed for not following rules, sorry partyboy i promise to behave now!

I am looking at first cycle of of winnie (when researched properly) and wondered what pct would look like please?

also how bad is winnie for gyno? is it worse than others(SD Etc)

Adverts all say hardly likely at all but i would like to stay informed by the real people who know.

is pct possible with the likes of novadex or another copy.

I should add this is my ever cycle of anything if that is a factor also.

I am looking for lean gains hence the winnie and mainly strength.

Thanks for any help

Colin

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    Tiger81
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 01:03:31 (permalink)
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    1st off mate can we check your diet and training is up to scratch?
    post a typical days diet and your training split please.
    Also height and weight.

    Knowledge is power...keep educating yourself!

    Train smart - leave your ego at the door.
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    colinheath
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 01:14:44 (permalink)
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    Hi,
    My present weight is around 105KG but high BF around 25% I would say as only just getting back to the gym serious after a year of going now and then

    I will not be starting until a few months time.

    height 5'10"

    training monday chest shoulders triceps

    wednesday back biceps

    friday legs abs along with abs added in another day which i like to vary

    cardio tues, thurs

    diet poor at the moment but will be improving from this week(need much more protein and fibre)

    Cheers

    Colin
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    Dan Nukem
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 02:05:53 (permalink)
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    Wouldn't go with winny only myself, would def use some test.

    High bf for winny anyway.

    Your unlikely to be affected by gyno on your first cycle imo, what is the planned length/dose?
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    colinheath
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 09:00:32 (permalink)
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    Hi,
    I was thinking of 75mg/day split through day for 4 week cycle with 3 week pct Nolva

    day 1 60mg
    1 week at 40mg
    1 week at 30mg
    1 week at 20mg

    Does this sound OK?

    I was thinking being oral and that the winnie is unlikely to need anti E then good starter?

    Perhaps SD would be a better option then?

    How do they compare for a first ever cycle?

    Winnie attracted me as lean mass gain as i am a flabby bastard at the moment. i can see it hidden underneath though

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    cLaTTeReD
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 09:30:07 (permalink)
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    winny @ 25% BF = total waste of time

    you wont see any difference
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    colinheath
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 09:32:35 (permalink)
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    ok thanks for the info. i will leave well alone for now then and just concentrate on burning fat

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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 09:34:57 (permalink)
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    diet poor at the moment but will be improving from this week(need much more protein and fibre)


    i have a crap car, not going to service it, not going to look after it but am going to put some 22" spinners on it

    which ones should i buy?

    logical answer?

    get a good car, look after it...then it will go

    leave the gear alone

    25% BF if measure correctly is not a place where i would want to be

    address diet
    get in a deficit
    =
    lose weight
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    colinheath
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 09:39:58 (permalink)
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    you are right and that is exactly what i intend to do now. After much reading till early hours i have decided i am not in the right place both physically and knowledge wise to be considering this.

    Will stuff bottle on shelf for years to come.

    thanks for the help guys it's nice to see people not advocating this stuff and giving quality advice

    cheers

    colin
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    ToxicToffee
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    RE: winnie and pct 2007/06/14 09:46:11 (permalink)
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    good lad

    best choice

    by the time 'needing gear' (whatever that means) does come around you can enjoy the benefiuts of a highly andogrenic course and bulk off it WITH lots more knowledge to hand
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